Radicals and Plotkin's problem concerning geometrically equivalent groups

Rüdiger Göbel*, Saharon Shelah

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Abstract

If G and X are groups and N is a normal subgroup of X, then the G-closure of N in X is the normal subgroup X̄G = ∩ {ker φ|φ X → G, with N ⊂ ker φ} of X. In particular, 1̄G = RGX is the G-radical of X. Plotkin calls two groups G and H geometrically equivalent, written G ∼ H, if for any free group F of finite rank and any normal subgroup N of F the G-closure and the H-closure of N in F are the same. Quasi-identities are formulas of the form (Λi≤n wi = 1 → w = 1) for any words w, wi (i ≤ n) in a free group. Generally geometrically equivalent groups satisfy the same quasi-identities. Plotkin showed that nilpotent groups G and H satisfy the same quasi-identities if and only if G and H are geometrically equivalent. Hence he conjectured that this might hold for any pair of groups. We provide a counterexample.

Original languageEnglish
Pages (from-to)673-674
Number of pages2
JournalProceedings of the American Mathematical Society
Volume130
Issue number3
DOIs
StatePublished - 2002
Externally publishedYes

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